"I think what helped me a lot as a JO was that I had some pretty good characters with whom to work. And
I enjoyed what I was doing. I guess that it takes all kinds but too many officers thought that their 'stuff' didn't stink and that made it awfully tough to be a leader. They tended to lead
through a feeling of superiority rather than by example. Again, thanks for the memories.
"I stayed in until May of '81 having decommissioned 2 more Frams. After a 6 year break, signed up
in the National Guard and just a year ago, retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the US Army Reserve with 26 years. Kind of a strange path for a Navy guy. I certainly do miss going to sea - particularly
over out of Japan. Those were pretty good times.
"Now I teach high school math - have been for almost 15 years and raise over half a million chickens a
year for Perdue, a major producer. I've got 3 kids; 21, 18 and 16 and have been married for almost 25 years."